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Randy, the CRS is worse than you thought there buddy.
When you read a Canadian test report and they give mileage in both litres per 100 kilometres, and MPG, don't forget they are talking about Imperial gallons (equal to 4.55 litres) not US gallons (equal to 3.78 litres).
27 (Imperial gallon) MPG = 22 (US gallon) MPG
35 (Imperial gallon) MPG = 29 (US gallon) MPG
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Randy, the mileage isn't crazy, well, actually it is but I digress, it's the efficiency, or more particularly, the lack thereof, that's way out of whack.
It's long been known that a powerful efficient engine barely working will get the best mileage.
The Cummins is a perfect example, a very efficient 6 cyl. engine with gobs of torque, and geared correctly.
When my wife wanted an SUV instead of the sedan she was driving I let her run around and look at all the models, get prices and drive them, while I sat at home waiting & smiling.
When she had narrowed it down to 3 models, a Cadillac Escalade, a Lincoln Navigator and a Jeep Grand Cherokee, I took her to the Land Rover dealer and we drove a Discovery (now the LR3).
There was no comparison, in price, ride, quality or luxury. In fact it was cheaper than either of the Lincoln or the Caddie, and Iwon't buy a GM and would think long and hard about a Chrysler anything.
What really sold her on it was the customer we met while looking around before the salesman was finishing up with another customer. An older fellow was having his Rover 'serviced' (it's what the Brit's call an oil & lube), when she asked him how he liked it he raved about it, never a problem, rides like a dream, never any repairs, just routine maintenance and consumables (brakes, tires, etc.) yada-yada-yada. Then she asked him how long he's had it.
20 years and nearly 500,000 km. (almsot 300,000 miles).
It's always cheaper to buy a quality product.
Before anybody jumps on the "import" bandwagon, Land Rover is a Ford company, lock, stock and barrel.
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Ken, the only thing that "leaks all the time" is the driver (my wife),  .
I have to say, the ride & handling is something I could get used to pretty easy.
It's not a 1/4 mile champion, that's for sure, but it will comfortably run down the highway with 4 adults at 80+ mph without breaking a sweat.
It has a really torquey 4.6 litre V8 in it, first time I took it in the cottage road (read 'goat path') I was blown away, this thing claws it's way up big hills at barely above idle speed.
I may have to buy another one for myself as a daily driver.
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Ken, I suspect there's a flaw in those numbers somewhere.
Considering the Range Rover is the same money, same or better mileage and likely more dependable than most of the other "luxury SUV's" out there.
I know dollar for dollar it would be hard to beat a Land Rover Discovery with anything else out there, especially when you consider the initial purchase price.
When I bought my wife's they were under $40k. loaded, and an Escalade was almost $70k. loaded. I've been in both Escalades (a friend has one) and the Navigator (my company has one) and the Discovery beats both hands down in ride and luxury, IMHO.
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Ken, you're right, I thought I mentioned earlier, but maybe not, 2004 was the last year the Dscovery was in production, it was replaced by the VERY new LR3.
Which is, I'm told, all Land Rover underneath the skin, but what an ugly skin it is....YUCH!!!
In this area you can get a 2 year old "off lease" Discovery with about 20,000 miles on it for a little under $30k. with lots of factory warranty left.
For off-road capabilities about the only thing in the same class is likely sitting on tracks. After a short drive around the cottage road (including a short jaunt through the forest on the hiking trail) my Dad called it "a well appointed Sherman Tank with really nice seats" when Mom asked how it was.
A neighbour of mine had an Envoy on lease for work, in 24 months it had 17 MAJOR repairs and non-stop parade of little stuff, including the 4wd giving up 4 hours from home in a blizzard pulling a snowmmobile trailer, because a wire came loose on a sensor/switch.
After 17 of 24 months GM took it back when the 4th transmission failed, no questions asked.
I've driven an Explorer, they are too short a w/b and too soft a suspension, rough roads make them ride like one of those bucking bulls at the cowboy bars.
The Jeep is not bad, several family members have had them, still lots of little stuff though, switches broke, A/C was a constant headache and poor mileage. Mind you they were made prior to Daimler jopining the party. I assume the quality went up after that.
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